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UPDATE JAN 9 9am PST: TOWN OF SUTTON CONFIRMS RON PAUL TOTALS WERE 31, NOT ZERO.

I just got off the phone with Jennifer Call, Town Clerk for Sutton. She confirmed that the Ron Paul totals in Sutton were actually 31, and said that they were “left off the tally sheet” and it was human error.

This is not an acceptable answer, especially because one of the most common forms of fraud in a hand count system is to alter or omit results on the reporting sheet. Hand count is lovely, transparent. They then fill out another reconciliation sheet, often in front of witnesses, and it looks fine. Then they provide a summary or media sheet with the incorrect results.

Bev Harris & Dr Hugh Thompson Talking to Lou Dobbs on CNN 10/31/2006 (6 mins)

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The following is a partial transcript of the Republican presidential debate sponsored by ABC News, Facebook, and ABC affiliate WMUR. The debate took place on January 5, 2008, at St. Anslem College in Manchester, New Hampshire.

(The point I am highlighting here is “blow-back”.)

 

GIBSON: Congressman Paul, let me ask you, do you agree with the Bush doctrine, or would you change it?

PAUL: Well, I certainly agreed with his foreign policy that he ran on and that we, as Republicans, won in year 2000. You know, the humble foreign policy, no nation building, don’t be the policeman of the world.

And we were strongly critical of the policy of the Clinton administration that did the opposite and we fell short. Of course, the excuse is that 9/11 changed everything.

But the Bush doctrine of preemptive war is not a minor change; this is huge. This is the first time we, as a nation, accept as our policy that we start the wars. I don’t understand this.

And that all options are on the table to go after Iran?

This is not necessary. These are Third World nations. They’re not capable.

But I think it’s the misunderstanding or the disagreements that we’ve had in this debate along the campaign trail is the nature of the threat.

PAUL: I’m as concerned about the nature of the threat of terrorism as anybody, if not more so. But they don’t attack us because we’re free and prosperous.

And there are radicals in all elements, in all religions that will resort to violence. But if we don’t understand that the reaction is, is because we invade their countries and occupy their countries, we have bases in their country — and we haven’t done it just since 9/11, but we have done that a long time.

I mean, it was the Air Force base in Saudi Arabia before 9/11 that was given as the excuse.

If we don’t understand that, we can’t win this war against terrorism.

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A big thanks to Jay Leno for having Ron Paul on and discussing Fox having excluded him from the important NH debates.

John McCain is given the chance to explain his remark about being in Iraq for 100 years being “fine” with him.

“My point was, and continues to be, how long do we have to stay in Bosnia? How long do we have to stay in South Korea? How long are we going to stay in Japan? How long are we going to stay in Germany? All of those 50, 60 year periods. No one complains, in fact they contribute enormously their presence to stability in the world. The point is, it’s American casualties. We got to get Americans off the front line. Have the Iraqis, as part of the strategy, take over more and more of the responsibilities. And then I don’t think Americans are concerned if we are there 100 years, or a 1000 years, or 10,000 years. What they care about is the sacrifice of our most precious treasure, and that’s American blood.”

John, I am complaining. How long do we have to stay in 130 countries around the world? How long do we give money to both sides of warring countries? What you are selling here is American Imperialism pure and simple. I am not advocating isolationism–it is a big tricky world and there may be places we should be for a while. But, for you to totally dismiss the cost as inconsequential as long as there is no blood, is just naive and loony. There will be blood enough for everyone, and you will spend us all into bankruptcy.

Ron Paul Stands For Integrity

January 8th, 2008

If you want to know what this man stands for and if he has been consistent in his principles, check these resources. You may not agree with everything he stands for, but, I challenge you to show me where he has been limp or waffling. Others talk of change, but they won’t talk about this kind of change because it shakes their world. Ron Paul is a man of principle - principles that have not been expressed in a very long time. Many people think these ideas are radical because we have strayed so far away from the principles that founded this country. These are not new ideas, they are the original ideas.

The congressional record of Ron Paul collected and maintained by OnTheIssues.

Ron Paul’s writings archived at the The Autonomist.

An extended collection of videos featuring Ron Paul explaining many of his ideas is available at RonPaulReveres.com.
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